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This wood was finally confirmed and verified as Malaysian Blackwood/Ebony.....It all looks so good I am having a hard time putting any of it on my web site!!


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Mighty attractive stuff there Brian, mighty attractive...

Next summer, I want a set like that. Take note!Terry Stowell38577.8611689815


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I have a set or 2 of ziricote that looks almost identical. Darn nice set!


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Sapwood!

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And here is what something like set looks under finish ... in this case with cocobolo bindings.



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Wow John!!
I have been asked some questions about workability and stability (especially of the sap wood) of this wood. Just from cutting it I was very impressed at how smooth it cut, the list of those who are building with it and how stable it is (6% to 12% MC). Can you give us a little scoop on what it is like to build with it? Maybe the Kinnaird Bros. too....I know you guys have built with it.Brian Hawkins38579.449212963


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I don't have as good a picture as John but here is some MB with bubinga binding. I think this wood is really pretty and it works very nicely. Its a great choice for tonal and aesthetic reasons.
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That is so sweet!! I bet that figured bubinga binding is striking with that dark wood. I would love to see it in person!


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Ummmmmmmmmmmmm I want a set of that

Sapwood is fine as long as the wood has time to acclimate and dry out correctly, the zircote I used had some and it posed no problems at all...

How many sets do you have Brian??

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2 sets left, you can see them at my website....plus the two that I kept for myself, of course! OLFers will get 10% off of the listed price, if you pay through paypal I will refund it back to you.....I am working on getting more but I do not know how that is going to work out. I should be getting some but the backs will only be 7 1/4" wide but can be grafted for larger guitars....I will keep you posted!


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Hi Brian--

A further note on that guitar my bro pictured--it really sounds nice. One of the sweetest guitars I've ever played. He paired a redwood top w/ it, and the Blackwood / Redwood / Bubinga combo is just stunning.

Not just tooting his horn, but also recommending the wood as a great material.

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John and John,

Those are great looking guitars. I can't wait to get mine started.


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Thank you James
I might add that I saw quit a nice guitar that you made. It was brought to me by one of your customers who lives in Lawrenceville. I can't remember his name but I do remember that beautiful sunburst.

And Bro...Thanks for the toot! John Kinnaird38579.8903356481


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Well, I am totally impressed with these guitars!! I can't wait to build with it myself. Steve and John, how do you think it would pair with a 17 year air dried bearclaw Eng. spruce top-bright sustainable tap (I have 40 or 50 sets) versus say a red spruce top. I know that the back and sides just "color" the sound but I do think it makes a difference when the right back/sides and top are matched....correct me if I am wrong. As dumb as it sounds, I tap, listen and just sort of go with what "feels" like it will work together for the sound that I want to produce.....so far (in my very limited building experience) I have either been lucky it works for me.


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Brian,
75% is luck. The other half is skill.


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[QUOTE=John Kinnaird] Thank you James
I might add that I saw quit a nice guitar that you made. It was brought to me by one of your customers who lives in Lawrenceville. I can't remember his name but I do remember that beautiful sunburst.

And Bro...Thanks for the toot! [/QUOTE]

Thanks, that would be Gary Collier's lefty.

Don't you live near Conyers??


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"Thanks, that would be Gary Collier's lefty."

I think Bert Stegal here in Memphis had the righthanded sister to Gary's. Very nice. It's almost made sunburst junkie out of me. I am going to try one on my next build. I may be calling on you for a little (lot) of advice. Jimmie D38580.3723263889


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Brian
I think your Englemann top sounds great. It should make an excellent compliment to the MB back and sides. It would be very similar to a cocobolo back and sides paired with Englemann. Plenty of color and richness to the tone. You could make a killer fingerstyle with that combo, and it would be a good flatpick combo as well if the Englemann were braced and thicknessed correctly. I may want to try to get you to part with one of those tops as soon as I deliver this next guitar.

John


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You got it John! I will send you an email OK.


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